WARNING/LEGAL NOTICE:  Guys, please realize this isn’t a 100% transferable solution.  Your situation MAY vary and if you undertake this type of work, know that you do risk damaging your walls and components if you rush things or get in over your head.  You are all smart, capable people, but please know that Netduma, including myself, are NOT responsible if you decide to jump in with both feet and mess something up.  Slow and steady will win this race. 


If you don’t know, don’t be afraid to ask.


Greetings #DumaArmy – I have had some questions come up about this subject from time to time, so I thought as I am starting a remodel, I would take the opportunity to do a brief “How to” on the subject. 


Okay, if you are the standard home owner with the ability to turn a screw driver and make some basic measurements, this isn’t hard.  It will tax your patience at times, but the overall project is pretty straight forward.


Here is an example:  We purchased a new TV and hung it on the wall to get it up off the floor and out of the reach of the dogs.  Disregard the line of screw holes, we tried some brown shelves in a series, but they didn’t match the décor HouseHold 6 had in mind, so that will be addressed at some point in the future.




I found this kit that is available online and at local hardware stores made by CE Tech.  This kit was extremely easy to use, comes complete with all you need, and gets the highest rating from me personally as this is a one and done type application.   


This is essentially what I used to do the work, but the kit comes with a hand drill and a “T” handle.


Now there are some BASIC things that you should consider before embarking on this DIY project.  For the purposes of this write up “Interior wall” will refer to any wall in your home/apt where both sides of the wall are in “your unit”, and neither side of the wall is an exterior wall (I.E. subject to elements, thus needing insulation/protection/paint/siding/etc).  Cool?


These pictures were taken from my home (I live in the US) and here about 95% of the interior walls (like this one) DO NOT have insulation or other “irritants” that will hamper your progress.  I know that overseas some countries build interior walls that are solid (concrete, brick/mortar, etc) in which case this process does get CONSIDERABLY harder. 


In the US, for the most part, the vertical pieces of wood (called “Studs”) in the wall are set on 18 inch* centers.  Find any 2 x 4 in the wall, find the dead center of it, measure 18 inches to the right or left, and you will find the next 2 x 4 stud.  If you have any electrical outlet in the room where you want to do the work, CAREFULLY pull the plate.  The wall box itself will be nailed to a stud, that will give you a basis of where to measure.  If you have doubts, go to any unfinished room, or the garage.  The round circles with the white putty in the drywall are where they nailed it up, your studs are where the nail locations are. 


*There are some places I have been where guys framed them on 12 inch centers, and I have seen a house framed with “double wide – 36 inch” studs to allow for hanging double insulation (called “Bats”) but those were exterior walls.  I would suspect most of you will find right around 18 inches between studs for doing this work.


In the picture below, you can see that I have measured off the back of the TV for the height I want the lines to disappear into the wall, and then I have measured from a known stud to make sure I am not drilling into the center of one.  


(NOTE:  This picture is 90 degrees off - the lines and the tape should be running horizontally on the wall for this shot)



Here is the hole I made with the include hole saw from the kit.  As you can see, I purposely over-lapped just a bare bit of the 2 x 4 stud and have a nice, wide pocket to work with (no insulation beyond the drywall) with which to work.  From the stud on the left side, I have a full 16 or so inches to work with to fish the lines through.


 This kit that I got comes with these very clever “hole plugs” that allow for the wires to be safely brought through, and to keep any creepy crawlies out (a big plus with Mrs. JD).  You can do the same thing with a can of spray foam and a wall plate.  This just makes it a nice, clean installation when you are done, which is why I find this kit really beneficial.



This is what it will look like when it is installed in the wall.




So I have a hole up by the TV, I then just took some measurements down by the current height where HH6 wants the new shelves to hang, and drilled the second hole.



Effectively we have an IN/Out for the wires, we just need to get them from Point A, through the wall, and connected at Point B. 


You can do this REALLY cheap and easy with a shoelace and a nut/bolt something of weight, or a coat hanger.  This kit comes with plastic fish rod type pieces that snap together with a hook on the end that you can use to pull wires.  I used them for this method to show how it works, but I have ALWAYS done this with an opened up clothes hanger.  They are already prone to bending back, so they are easy to slide down the drywall and will “pop out” the other hole on their own.


Fishing Guide:  



Once you get to this step, it’s pretty easy. 

  • Lie out your cables that you want to fish through the wall
  • If you think there MAY be a chance you need one in the future, pull an extra one of two now (you will see I did exactly that down below)
  • Stagger the ends, so you don’t have a huge ball of end wire, and tape them together first.  You want them to be in a first, second, third type of configuration, you don’t want 6 wires, with all the ends even and try to pull that through! 


PRO TIP:  Use painter’s tape, or something else that comes off really easy.  Don’t use Duct tape or anything like that.  Trust me.  






This is a cap that comes with the kit to make the final product look a little more professional.  Again, a normal wall plate and some spray foam will do the same thing.



Here is the finished product with the temp shelf back in place and the wires pulled through.  All you can see is the top of the cover, which is what I wanted.  The sound bar that sits on this shelf will easily cover that half-moon and no one will be the wiser when watching the TV.



That is really all there is to it guys.  The interior pocket between (2) studs is almost never stuffed with insulation, and unless there are some other wires (or perhaps plumbing) in the way, you have a nice, confined little space to house the wires and get them out of site.


Let me know if you have any questions and thanks for reading.


Good luck and stay frosty!



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